Why Abandoned Railroads Still Matter 🛤
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Why Abandoned Railroads Still Matter 🛤

August 14, 2019

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  • Reply Scott Ackman January 15, 2017 at 1:19 am

    Just to be clear, these are YOUR proposals and not legitimate official proposals.

  • Reply nnnicht April 19, 2017 at 10:35 pm

    Board of Directors | Board Members & Executives – of LA Metro take thier cars away make ride the bus? then maybe they can see your street car deal

  • Reply nnnicht April 20, 2017 at 9:49 pm

    http://la.streetsblog.org/2017/04/19/metro-west-santa-ana-branch-light-rail-alignments-narrowed/

  • Reply nnnicht April 20, 2017 at 9:49 pm

    Planning and Programming Committee approved four specific West Santa Ana Branch light rail alignments to be used for environmental studies.

    The West Santa Ana Branch is a historic Pacific Electric Streetcar right-of-way that runs diagonally through southeast L.A. County cities including Paramount, Bellflower and Artesia. Measure M includes funding for two phases of light rail on the West Santa Ana Branch, with the line ultimately expected to run from Union Station to the city of Artesia.

    In September 2016, the Metro board approved a four-year $12 million contract with Parsons Brinckerhoff to complete environmental clearance work for the line. The environmental clearance studies follow several earlier preliminary studies by the Southern California Association of Governments and Metro.

    The southern portion of the line runs on a very clear off-street rail right-of-way. The alignment for the northern portion, connecting to Union Station, has not been finalized. With various options including extensive aerial tracks and subway tunnels, the northern portion looks like it will be relatively expensive

  • Reply B G July 1, 2017 at 10:55 pm

    I agree with you, especially on using old rail lines for transit ways. Even though this solution appears obvious to you and me convincing the public of this is often challenging. Just this past November voters in Virginia Beach, Va voted to not allow public funds to extend their light rail (the tide) between Norfolk and the VA Beach Ocean front. This killed the project and they have already begun decommissioning their plans. In a northern suburb of D.C. A new light rail line (the purple line) is planned to be built on an old and unused railroad. This project is shovel ready and can start being built in a month, but NIMBYs living old railroad have been successful in holding the project up in court and now federal funding is at risk of being lost.

  • Reply MrSquareart August 6, 2017 at 9:45 pm

    good video!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Reply Hayato Mitzukata August 7, 2017 at 11:49 pm

    I can see also a possible change that Rail can benefit the public, even a chance for some can be a subway line

  • Reply Nexis4Jersey August 12, 2017 at 4:19 am

    Nice proposal , although I think it would be better if you went with a more proven ground level power supply which draws its power from a small strip in the center of the tracks when the train passes over it.

  • Reply Frank Wells October 20, 2017 at 3:50 am

    They tried to bring back light rail on the P&E greenbelt belt through the heights and signal hill, but it was rejected by the residents because they were afraid of the noise… Then it was an express busway… same problem… so metro abandoned the idea. The majority of the r.o.w is memorial parks now, they likely hood of that r.o.w is very slim now.

  • Reply Christopher S. O' November 8, 2017 at 4:35 am

    Very informative video. I lived in Long Beach at 830 Chestnut St. in 1976 when I was in the Navy when my ship was being overhauled. Many times I seen little used rail lines, even abandoned right of way that could have been used for light rail, commuter train travel. When I’m home in the San Diego area on visits up to a week, I ride the San Diego trolley to the San Diego Amtrak Santa Fe Depot where I board the Pacific Surfliner & ride it to Los Angeles & Oxnard alternating my visits between the 2 cities. In Los Angeles when I visit the San Fernando area, I take Metrolink to the Sylmar/San Fernando Station where I catch the 239 Metro bus that takes me within a 15 minute walk of my final destination. When I travel to Oxnard, I get off in Oxnard & take the Gold Coast Transit number 6 bus to my final destination in Ventura, my trips are comfortable, restful & very relaxing, I don’t have to deal with the traffic on the I-405 parking lot, the Ventura Parking lot & the I-5 parking lot.

  • Reply Raymond Leggs December 23, 2017 at 10:19 pm

    I saw an early big lots sign! neer thought they had been around for that long.

  • Reply Nathaniel Lionheart December 30, 2017 at 11:38 am

    Tails and trolleys were abandoned and not preserved (the right of ways not kept anyway) in order to benefit oil companies and companies like General Morons, Err, I meant Government Morons.

  • Reply Walter Clark March 2, 2018 at 10:57 pm

    Excellent production value on most of your videos.
    I too love abandoned lines, but more for the history than the future. I have explored all in Fullerton and Brea. I've written up the history of one. . .
    http://www.fullertonwalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Electric-Trains-Through-Fullerton.pdf
    Have you heard of Rails-to-Trails Conservancy?
    Their primary interest is turning abandoned lines into trails, but one idea that pops up there is allowing the railroad to own the right of way indefinitely but to put trails on it as a way of preserving it. When it is being used it is less tempting to sell it off to developers.

  • Reply :Ramon : March 24, 2018 at 2:03 am

    haha I'm the same exact way lol

  • Reply :Ramon : March 24, 2018 at 2:05 am

    I love how this channel goes about the old Pacific electric rairoad and other new train line from metro Los Angeles

  • Reply Shawn Sörbom May 27, 2018 at 8:12 am

    yeah, but on our current networks the train is still slower than a car. Don't get me wrong — I love (and depend on) the train network, but it isn't comprehensive enough in its current state to compete with cars. A trip between Torrance and Pasadena takes 3.5 hours by train compared to 40 minutes by car in non-peak traffic. That said, I wish I could do more to fix the rail time problem myself. Would love to do policy work on the subject.

  • Reply Gammareign October 25, 2018 at 9:33 pm

    I am fairly confident people will leave sunny, nearly winterless southern California for the sunny, nearly winterless southeastern U.S.

  • Reply rredhawk February 8, 2019 at 2:25 am

    I was wondering what eventually happened to Martin Fry, former lead singer of ABC. 🙂

    My favorite railroad from childhood is now a freeway bypass (Harrisburg Bypass 13) in Southern Illinois. It used to be a coal/freight line. Only 2 blocks from my grandparents' house I would run down and count the cars every time a whistle sounded the passing yet another train. Good memories.

  • Reply microbusss February 26, 2019 at 6:24 pm

    oh I blame the demise of the streetcars on the Streetcar Scandal where GM, Standard Oil & Firestone were buying out lines & replacing them with buses!!
    Sometimes the trolley tracks in cities are just paved over!! When road construction happens on that road rails. ties & spikes are often found!

  • Reply Albert Carello February 28, 2019 at 5:53 am

    Chicago being the rail. center of the nation has yet to have a light rail line. There are 2 abandoned interurban rights of ways that could easily have light rail lines built on them. Also abandoned freight rail rights of ways could have light rail lines built on them. The two abandoned interurban lines are the Chicago, North Shore, and Milwaukee and the Chicago, Aurora, and Elgin which should be revived. Chicago's expressways have seem to have run out of capacity and are forever gridlocked.

  • Reply Mark Turner March 9, 2019 at 12:30 am

    Not to shoot holes in the theory? I actually am with you on these thoughts! But here are the problems,and you mentioned these in your video.
    First. Take a look at the "high speed rail" they tried and failed in California to build,the government was involved!
    Whereever government is in and part of a business deal,it will die. Croni-capitalism(not spelled correctly I am sure) is the biggest killer of any project,especially rail! The government regulations and permits,killz it everytime! There are things like "no show jobs" that remove money that is actually needed and bid to complete the jobs,but the poloticians steal from the people,and nobody pays,except the taxpayer!
    Government is knee-deep in any rail endeavor and that is intentionally done! Other railroads want no competition, and bargan/lobby to keep them out! And the state and federal reps are complicit in holding progress back!
    Second problem.
    People hold vehicles as a static symbol, and the folks that have money,will not ride public transit.only the commoner will ride,if it saves money?
    As I say. This is not to shoot holes,or be a smart butt,but these are just a few problems where there are more.

  • Reply Kevin Krostosky March 11, 2019 at 5:45 am

    Very Articulate, Dude ! ! !

  • Reply Jeannette Hillert March 19, 2019 at 4:05 am

    This just goes to show u how much people like to waste things. No reason for this. Why do people do this? It's hard on all of us, not just a few. Just saying…..

  • Reply George Counciill March 25, 2019 at 9:36 am

    Highways are generally paid for by users, Major rail lines are owned and maintained by the railroads. Passenger rail systems are not self supporting and must get money from taxpayers. The alternate fuels don't pay gasoline or use taxes so they are getting free use of the highways. Most states either put their highway taxes into their general funds or spend them on airports or ports' Make everyone using each system pay for what they use and not carry all the different systems.

  • Reply savilo53 March 31, 2019 at 6:15 pm

    cars gave us freedom

  • Reply eVeNSteVeN G to the arrad June 29, 2019 at 6:26 am

    It would probably run over thousands of homeless they are already everywhere except Maxine Waters neighborhood

  • Reply Stoneyburke July 21, 2019 at 8:24 pm

    It`s all about the MONEY.

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