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Hyperloop – ultra high-speed public transport unveiled by Elon Musk – Truthloader

October 11, 2019


Elon Musk has been talking about hyperloop
for a while now… in the vaguest possible terms. Until now, because he’s released a
57 page document explaining his plans via his SpaceX website…
If you’re not familiar with Musky, he’s been involved or come up with paypal, tesla electronic
cars, the SpaceX programme, which came up with the world’s first reusable rockets and
designed the Falcon rocket system for Nasa, he’s invested heavily in solar energy… basically,
he’s had more great ideas than I’ve had hot dinners.
His plans for Hyperloop would involve linking two urban areas, probably no more than 1,500
kilometres apart, with a low pressure pneumatic tube-type system sending pods carrying people
from town to town at close to sonic velocity… That’s very fast.
Musk’s proposals would built a route between Los Angeles and San Francisco…
Now, if you just had a tube full of air with pods travelling through it, that wouldn’t
be quick, the friction would make the sorts have speeds he’s talking about impossible.
There have been similar plans released previously that by Rand Corporation and ET3 that would
be even quicker but would use electromagnetic suspension and a total vacuum… but the problem
is leaks – one seal or small crack on a huge tube network would stop it working.
Musk’s solution is a low pressure system, not a no pressure system, which could cope
with small leaks but would introduce another problem – the Kantrowitz limit.
Kantrowitz limit In basic terms… If the walls of the tube
and the capsule are too close together, the capsule would push the air in the system as
not enough of it would be flowing past. A bit like pressure build up in a syringe…
So you either go really slowly or have a really wide tube and travel really fast, and subject
yourself to crushing g force as soon as you go into the slightest bend.
But again Musk’s got a solution – to put a battery powered electric compressor fan at
the front of the pod pumping the air to the back and relieving the pressure…
He reckons that would work when combined with an external linear electric motor – the same
sort you’d get in an electric car, but flattened – which would accelerate the pods up to full
speed and give them a power boost every now and then.
So that would be ridiculously expensive right? Well… Elon Musk reckons he it could all
be built for several billion dollars… which he says is still cheaper than the proposed
high speed rail link in california by several factors…
his proposal is to build an elevated tube network on pylons alongside an existing highway…
that would provide a straight line, relatively few land disputes and be built in prefabricated
sections. And on top of all that he says his plans would
be more resistant to earthquakes and thermal expansion and contraction… oh, and it would be self-powering – by putting solar panels
on the tubes. Sounds perfect… but obviously there are
skeptics… SOT
So Elon Musk’s proposals – if they can become reality would be safer, faster, cheaper, more
environmentally friendly, weather-proof, earthquake resistant, and less disruptive than current
modes of transport… So, I hope he really can pull it off… I also hope he designs
us all hoverboards at some point.

99 Comments

  • Reply Jack Torcello December 28, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    NYC actually commenced the building of a vacuum railway at the start of the 20th century…

  • Reply Isaac Stone December 30, 2014 at 9:05 am

    Glass and heat wave…. Earthquake and …………………..

  • Reply Hi Hello January 2, 2015 at 9:18 am

    Elon Musk is a perfect example of who we should look up to. After all he has accomplished, I have faith in him that he could actually get something like this started. Given that he has the right people to help. Even if it doesnt work out, we might learn something a long the way that could help in future high speed travel projects.

    "Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it." -W. H. Murray

  • Reply Etienne Vandamme January 3, 2015 at 5:21 pm

    couldn't you post links to what you say ? like the paper

  • Reply Erudite January 7, 2015 at 1:34 am

    This is awesome…. I've had a few ideas for a 'skyway' system myself, much of it depends on materials and other stuff that is mostly in R&D right now (like graphene) but I may as well share them here…

    What if you build the pillars really high (like a highrise building) and stabilize them with the use of tuned mass dampers (ie a pendulum mechanism that can mitigate the force of wind) while simultaneously using the more forceful wind currents found at that altitude to power the tube or store energy (thus paying for itself as a wind/kinetic energy farm)?

    What if you build stabilizing pillars above the tube as well (kinda like they do with suspension bridges) and bridge the gap with concave solar cells (much more efficient at harnessing the sun's energy)?

    What if, for the sealing the vacuum method you create a double or even triple layer of tubing. In case of any cracks on the exterior, the interior will not be affected OR it will gradually equalize the pressure through osmosis.. this can be achieved through 'breathable' but highly durable material such as carbon fiber or even other plant-based natural fibers.

    What if, for the kantrowitz limits, you cut out the need for what is most likely high-tech, high load, high cost engines in the pods by just having aerodynamic wind tunnels within the frames of the pods like a bird has hallow bones? Any pressurized air in the front will seamlessly flow throw that cool turbine looking engine (could be purely aesthetic) in the front, along the pipes (which can even trickle down to AC units within the pod) and out the back through another cool turbine looking fan thing. This will basically create a ventilation system that works with the form factor of the tube… any additional high-tech/electrical engine based systems will thus add to that rather than being the sole ventilation method.

    #whatif  

  • Reply Br Williams January 16, 2015 at 11:20 pm

    If a hyperloop has the potential to go beyond Mach 10 (according to the Rand corporation) I wonder if it is possible to use the hyperloop to launch rockets or manned spacecrafts into Low Earth Orbit if it is combined with rocket technology?

  • Reply Evo Kevin January 21, 2015 at 9:35 am

    Super weed tube?

  • Reply Philippe Gauthier January 24, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    The airplane compagny lobyists will of course oppose to the project.

  • Reply Warhawk Me January 24, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    Instead of a fan at the front why not put one way valves in the tube to relieve the pressure ahead of the car. They would serve dual purpose: pressure relief and tube evacuation. 

  • Reply Nadezhda Byrina January 29, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    I respect this man and what he's doing.

  • Reply Lord McSwain February 2, 2015 at 5:40 pm

    Could we create a train with a cavitation device at the front?

  • Reply Lord McSwain February 2, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    Maybe we can put a miniature rocket inside of a hyperloop, and put that inside of a larger hyperloop. The speed from the big hyperloop, small hyperloop, and rocket engine should be combined. Better yet, we put the hyperloop in a loop and have it loop around the loop until the rocket inside reaches maximum speed, then divert the smaller hyperloop with its rocket onto a ramp and activate both.

  • Reply Radu Andrei February 4, 2015 at 11:11 am

    Just make it bulletproof. Lots of gun nuts in the US and random shootings everywhere.

  • Reply robheusd February 7, 2015 at 4:49 pm

    This system is impracticale because unlike a train system, you can not extend the network with branchlines going into other directions, so all you have are fast connections between point A and B, but you can't service other points. You have to make the mean travel time faster, not just between point A and B, because most travels still would first have to go to A with other means of transport, and similarly from B to final destionation. Changing lanes/branching lines in such a system is not doable I think, only at very low speeds a change in direction (different tube connection) would be possible.

  • Reply Ryan Stutzman February 12, 2015 at 12:51 pm

    They couldn't have picked a better naysayer. And what have YOUUUU invented that changed the world? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiYb_0wOWqY#t=246

  • Reply Denise Sundberg February 19, 2015 at 5:51 pm

    This guy's brit accent is just annoying.

  • Reply JoeyMas PhillySnaps February 26, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    I don't feel that it moves enough people at one time to make it worth building. 

  • Reply mrjunker February 28, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    Tesla Electronic cars… What!

  • Reply Armando Betancourt March 1, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    People often seem confused by numbers. A hundred billion dollars is less than 10% of what this country spends on its bloated military every single year. It's a drop in the bucket and would revolutionize transportation globally.

  • Reply MrFloppy March 4, 2015 at 6:35 am

    so the problem as usual isn't the technology, we have the greatest technologies in the world to make this possible, the problem as always is simply money. 

  • Reply !ACT March 6, 2015 at 12:13 am

    EARTHQUAKE!!!

  • Reply DJRedwireOfficial March 10, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    Having been born and raised in southern California, I find it hard to fathom this system working with the amount of earthquakes we have in the region. The bigger earthquakes, around magnitudes 5 or 6 and above aren't super common, but those aren't really the major issue. Rather it's the presence of 2-4 magnitude, slow moving earthquakes that are almost constantly occurring up and down the state that make this system impractical and put the system in rampant misalignment considering how delicate these things seem to be. These issues wouldn't surface overnight, but every few weeks and months you'd need to make adjustments all along it to counteract the ever shifting earth beneath it. Maintainence like this costs money – something that California is 778 billion dollars short of.

  • Reply Tom E March 10, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    So musk sais it wouldnt be economicaly viable to use them over longer distances because you might aswell use a supersonic plane…. which dont exist for commercial use because they're dangerous. 

  • Reply Probably Ben March 15, 2015 at 12:32 am

    On a fault line? that seems a little dangerous

  • Reply intellexae March 24, 2015 at 7:54 am

    After he pays me back my $61 bucks and guarantees me he wont us another PayPal card to rip me off, but he can't guarantee that, can he?
    So why should I trust he wont crush all the people he ripped of in those crazy tubes?
    /s/ R. Lewis

  • Reply MisterSir March 30, 2015 at 1:30 am

    this british guy is terrible at hosting

  • Reply Jordan Fourcher April 8, 2015 at 7:14 pm

    hendo makes a hoverboard  if you want one https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/142464853/hendo-hoverboards-worlds-first-real-hoverboard

  • Reply Jordan Fourcher April 8, 2015 at 7:16 pm

    this is by far one of the best forms of transportation we have come up with

  • Reply Sergey K April 10, 2015 at 4:20 pm

    Why not a pneumatic tube system? this way carriages can be dumb tubes with no motors.

  • Reply Brian Howard April 10, 2015 at 4:45 pm

    I'd like to see a transport system similar to his hyperloop idea but where small 4 seat cars, called Var(s), actually drive up and lock into a train-like structure called a Vessel Pod (VP).  The VP then travels at high speeds through a vacuum tube using magnetic, solar and/or combinations of similar technologies for acceleration and deceleration. 

    The advantages would be:  
    1.  A higher volume of travelers all in their Vars on each VP.
    2.  The versatility of driving right out of the VP and into the destination city.
    3.  A decrease in fuel & energy consumption.
    4.  The system being adopted statewide, nationally and ultimately internationally.

  • Reply Aja Donna April 18, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    Go Elon!!! he always has sceptics cause he goes against the grain!!! go elon Gooo!!! =)))))

  • Reply R.B. April 19, 2015 at 4:21 am

    Criticise criticise, criticise, offer no advice. Wanker.

  • Reply Minh Nguyen April 20, 2015 at 6:48 pm

    His vision is huge, spanning far into the future and far into space. A very admirable man

  • Reply Jay Young April 21, 2015 at 3:30 pm

    I'm sorry that the old Turbo train wasn't a success in the US!

  • Reply Anzeon N. May 10, 2015 at 2:44 pm

    Awesome idea and project but….. WHERE IS THE TOILET???
    You didn't concider that kids uses the toilet permamently eps. during such a long ride

  • Reply Inoffensive Username May 18, 2015 at 7:46 pm

    Technology the world actually NEEDS! YES!

  • Reply HONDATA24 May 19, 2015 at 7:58 am

    World fastest crack pipe?!like a longest roller coaster ride?

  • Reply Leutchik June 8, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    Terrorists would just LOVE to see this thing built.
    As Marlon Brando, as Col. Kurtz, said in "Apocalypse Now", "the HORROR, the HORROR ! "

  • Reply mevans215 June 15, 2015 at 1:16 am

    @Joey Mas my thought also. This would be an excellent spin on logistics for non- personal means.

  • Reply Rafael Navarro June 15, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    hope he is working too on the hooverboard…

  • Reply Hus 9 June 16, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    Elon Musk  should stop messing around and invent teleportation

  • Reply Sub Zero June 18, 2015 at 4:38 pm

    I dont really think that this project is going to be true.

    Why ? 
    Cause the ''behind the scene elite'' wants humanity slaves in every way.

    Remember what happened with Concorde and TU-144…….

  • Reply baverfjant June 30, 2015 at 12:44 pm

    What happens in case of fire or some other form of emergency in the capsules? How do you get out? It looks pretty tight between the capsule and the walls.

  • Reply Sebastian Pye July 13, 2015 at 2:29 pm

    This is getting built already. Haters gonna hate.

  • Reply Yuriy Lyachshenko July 15, 2015 at 11:25 am

    побыстрей бы уже!

  • Reply Morph Verse August 16, 2015 at 11:00 am

    Hyperloop, ET3 Tube system, these ideas need to be worked on on a global collaborative scale..

    And keep the ego part aside..

  • Reply Focux August 28, 2015 at 11:30 pm

    A total vacuum is the only way to do this correctly… A low pressure system has too many flaws that are a huge detriment with a large cost. He clearly doesn't understand the intricacies behind this. Stick to cars….

  • Reply SHOWus yur pap errs, NOW!!! Schenl August 29, 2015 at 10:46 am

    musk is connected to the government, fuck his BRIGHT ideas, THEY are government technology transfer . The other company named in this report was the random corporation. Another company THAT is a military industrial complex giant

  • Reply Jane Geary August 30, 2015 at 3:45 am

    Did anyone else read the document? Elon Musk is fucking insane…

  • Reply Nehmo Sergheyev August 30, 2015 at 7:38 am

    The joke at the end was lame.

  • Reply Schmutz Lord September 14, 2015 at 4:49 pm

    i think this would only be possible nationally, not while going through other countries i think. ( i mean a Long route )

  • Reply JJmp40 September 18, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    "Never crashes"

  • Reply BlackPhilosopher September 21, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    Hoverboard!

  • Reply faisal shaikh September 25, 2015 at 2:15 pm

    I really apreciate this technology i hope this will come in India.

  • Reply Silvia Claudia Bennasar September 26, 2015 at 8:50 am

    It is great, it seems not be dangerous but it is not for claustrophobic people.

  • Reply sydy MK October 6, 2015 at 9:22 am

    Greetings resort to what I work on improving the design of this project. Now replace as transfer 1 ton of material in any curvature of any design and speed make suggestions. I am seeking a team for a more accurate calculation TEST

  • Reply TheGrateful108 October 25, 2015 at 6:16 am

    For a public transportation – too complicated and expensive. Not practical for short distances
    Tube with magnetic accelerators is a great idea to send load into a space orbit cheaply on continuous basis- like miles long magnetic canon. Much better for Space Industrial Development than Space X.

  • Reply Christian BOCHET November 8, 2015 at 7:54 am

    Génial…on entre dans la science fiction de pleins pieds.

  • Reply sydy MK November 17, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    1:10

  • Reply sydy MK November 17, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    test

  • Reply Erich Pri December 4, 2015 at 2:48 am

    Interesting

  • Reply Michael Cataluna January 1, 2016 at 2:50 am

    Tesler

  • Reply Christopher Effrem January 20, 2016 at 10:49 pm

    This guy's a genius.

  • Reply Nuno C January 21, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    that's great build it earthquake tremor zone… that should go over well when your travelling at the speed of sound.

  • Reply Nuno C January 21, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    that's great build it earthquake tremor zone… that should go over well when your travelling at the speed of sound.

  • Reply Alexandre Souza January 24, 2016 at 5:50 pm

    downgraded alien technology

  • Reply kim snooks February 25, 2016 at 7:50 pm

    might as well skip the highspeed rail and go straight to tube trains if its so much cheapper

  • Reply Martin Skage March 5, 2016 at 10:23 pm

    you fucking stole my idea!

  • Reply Manu Mohan March 12, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    is it economical in countries like India

  • Reply Roger Kreil March 15, 2016 at 7:54 pm

    Well they have to work out the bugs first like he said.  But if it is not too expensive, it would be cool to try out!  😀  I live in Alberta, Canada though so I would have to wait until something like that came here.

  • Reply PositiveEnergy DrawingRelaxTime May 10, 2016 at 5:18 am

    no it would cost trillions

  • Reply thunderforth rc May 12, 2016 at 7:56 pm

    you know some call people like elon musk wild for his ideas but hey human civilisation progressed with wild ideas we need people like him for the future of mankind

  • Reply Haphazard Property May 13, 2016 at 8:43 pm

    Mexico will pay for it.

  • Reply Haphazard Property May 13, 2016 at 8:43 pm

    Mexico will pay for it.

  • Reply emancoy July 25, 2016 at 12:23 am

    if the capsule somehow ruptures inside the vacuum tunnel, explosive decompression will happen killing the passengers.Or if the tunnel breaks, releasing the capsule like a speeding bullet, killing the passengers.

  • Reply VivaValdez August 1, 2016 at 5:58 pm

    You had to do it, didn't you? You just had to go say it?! HOVERBOARD?!!!

    Now you've raised our hopes for nothing 🙁

  • Reply AlwaysTruthSeek August 23, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    I believe it's too risky for passenger health. Any event would kill them in no time. Any error measurements or system failure or dysfunctional part would do the tragedy.

  • Reply Alyssa Hernandez October 14, 2016 at 3:10 am

    I read about this in school the other day I'm only 8 years old but yeah this thing is super cool let's say you're in California and you want to get to Los Angeles it'll take you there in 30 minutes cool huh

  • Reply Me Just November 23, 2016 at 7:19 am

    It's not just me who thinks this is a bad idea, there are a lot of scientists and engineers who think the same. Having something move at that speed in a small space has the potential to cause a calamity, a train like that derailing will sweep trough several towns before it will stop, It's like a massive hundreds of tons projectile moving at several times the speed of sound.

  • Reply Jim Smith May 21, 2017 at 10:41 pm

    Similar technology was written about in a Popular Science article from April 2004. Evacuated tube, ultra-high-speed transport dates back more than a century. Glad to see it's finally coming to fruition.

  • Reply Jief Yang June 14, 2017 at 8:21 am

    Truth loader? That's a hard sale in a name itself. Then the presenter looks like he's had insomnia for years and have less energy than a AA battery.
    The contend looks like it had some thinking behind it but is unpolished like a turd,..dislike

  • Reply The Flying Irishman July 16, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    Show this to Thunderf00t!

  • Reply andrea rosetti July 24, 2017 at 2:45 pm

    I think you could have a problem to create the vacuum inside all the lenght of the tube-line. I have an idea to suggest you: 1) Use the sound wave inside the tube to create a mobile-vacuum travelling inside the tube > you do not need to have the entire tube with vacuum > you ha eto stady a way to use sound inside the tube.

  • Reply andrea rosetti July 24, 2017 at 2:47 pm

    the train will travel just behind the sound waves and inside it in its tail

  • Reply Craig Brainimpact September 17, 2017 at 5:35 pm

    I guarantee we will not see one open to the public in the next 20 years, probably not even in our lifetime, there is a lot of problems beyond our current technical abilities that need to be overcome and then there is the risk to human health and life, until its been demonstrated to be safer than current solutions no insurer is going to cover it which will make it a non starter for public transport.
    To the people below, Elon Musk hires the people that come up with solutions, he does not get his hands dirty but people like you give him all the credit while the engineers and inventors he uses will go on to die in obscurity.

  • Reply Quantum Chang October 29, 2017 at 3:06 am

    Why not bury the hyperloop underground? It'll be more expensive to build and maintain but saves a lot of surface space above ground.

  • Reply Mr. VA Rhythm~_~ November 20, 2017 at 9:48 am

    This is a stupid fucking idea that won't work. Elon Musk is a con artist.

    Let me just explain in one paragraph for non physics people why this won't work. The pressure on this type of 'vacuum' tube from the atmosphere is HUGE. If there is any leak for any reason, everyone in the hyperloop will die, and the hyperloop itself will be destroyed. Yes. This means that if someone fires a gun into an inch of the hyper loop, it will send air traveling at the speed of sound rushing through the vacuum, ripping everything in it to shreds, killing all passengers, etc.

    In the modern world, a terrorist attack on a dumb invention like this will happen. Even if it didn't, any natural disaster (earthquake, hurricane, etc) has the potential of rupturing it. Heat itself would rupture it, as it would be difficult if not impossible to allow the material to expand and contract. Have you ever seen bridge joints? Same concept. Transportation infrastructure needs to be designed to withstand expansion and contraction. The hyperloop extending hundreds of miles will expand thousands of feet.

    Another problem: Turning! I know enough about physics to realize this is a stupid idea. Please do not encourage these types of dumb ideas.

  • Reply Proinnsias O Cillin December 16, 2017 at 12:14 am

    Hyperloop will look after the super-fast long-distance travel. But to take you automatically door-to-door, you have to add Krunchie's Cab: goo.gl/5iscJm

  • Reply sweetdragon36067 January 4, 2018 at 12:40 am

    Why not build this underground in a sealed tunnel: no land rights to get and would not interfere with peoples houses or be unsightly? I guess it's too simple or too expensive?

  • Reply Catt Ness January 22, 2018 at 8:18 am

    Guys this is not difficult tech or new..
    Don't believe the hype.. nature is your friend.. nurture.
    Grow fruit trees everywhere. U need food and shelter guys..
    Don't fall for smart cities. Start going rural and quitting work.. using nature…

    That is if u wanna live
    Have great day

  • Reply Steve Howard February 11, 2018 at 7:22 pm

    Toronto to Montreal is a good place for one of these.

  • Reply jef jef March 11, 2018 at 4:11 pm

    Ik kan me toch niet van de indruk ontdoen dat Musk een enorm Ponzi-schema aan het creëren is waarbij hij, door leuke ideetjes en marketingtrucks, de verlieslatende afdelingen en mislukte (voor hem half-gelukte) projecten dient te financieren… Komaan zeg een Tesla die helemaal van zijn baan afwijkt, een motor die in de zee belandt, eerst tunnels voor wagens, nu voor mensen… zonder het charisma van de topman en de marketing afdeling zijn de bedrijven van Musk niet meer zijn dan bedrijven is zware financiële problemen.

  • Reply JONOVID May 5, 2018 at 4:17 am

    this is not new! Hyperloop is the 2020 version of the 1960s Hovertrain experiment that failed the horrendous cost of per km of track plus its maintenance is just not viable let alone putting it all inside a vacuum tube & calling it Hyperloop and yes in the 1960s Hovertrain experiment they did say its the future, also saying it will go 600 kmh or 373 miles per hour. see video- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqsmOr3bEr4

  • Reply manasseh dawkins May 16, 2018 at 2:00 pm

    Maybe they have this already deep underground. Maybe that why people. Are reporting unexplained loud booms and windows shattering and ground cracking ect . Maybe.

  • Reply shivaji Bhosale May 19, 2018 at 1:10 pm

    How great elon musk is!

  • Reply Oh my gosh Is that bread? May 25, 2018 at 1:02 am

    Nice!!

  • Reply Tummie Hond July 27, 2018 at 12:05 am

    Truth loader± Current Maglevs from Siemens and another producer in Japan go about 650/700 km-h. elon Musk is aboring copy cat that refuses to see reason. Tube systems are so 80s and expensive. Boring!!

  • Reply Matthew Porter February 3, 2019 at 2:25 pm

    this is whats causing all the mysterious booms

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