HOW TO INSTALL A COLUMN RADIATOR – Plumbing Tips
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HOW TO INSTALL A COLUMN RADIATOR – Plumbing Tips

December 3, 2019


Plumberparts.co.uk. Honest reviews and advice. Boom! Selector and all that. Welcome to the days. Plumberparts.co.uk video. Alright, anyway, what we’re going to do is show you how to fit and hang this column radiator that we’ve got here. Column radiators are usually heavy, they’re lovely to look at. Their convection is not poor, really, but they’re much more of
a modern aesthetic thing to have in your house. That doesn’t mean I like to instal them. Now, there’s a couple
of complicating factors with this job here. Firstly, the customer actually wants this roughly here, okay? I can use this pipe here
for my new TLV on this but the other part that’s
at that end is miles away, so we’re gonna have to
pull these floorboards up and hopefully we’ll be
able to run our pipe up to the new position so it
comes up nice and neat. The other complicating
factor is the walls. The walls here are like
my friend’s dog shit. They’re soft, they stink, and they don’t taste very nice. So anyway, the first thing I want to do is take this floorboard up and take the old radiator out of the way. I’ve already shut the system down, I’m not an idiot, and I’m assuming if you know how to hang or you want to know how
to hang one of these, you know you have to drain
the heating system down. It’s very similar to how to
hang a bathroom towel rail. There will be a link to that
video at the end of this one. And also, we’ll put a link on how to drain down a pressurised system. Let’s gonna be bloody mental, isn’t it? Oh! (singing) So now we put this floorboard up you can see we’ve got our
main flow return just here We’ve got our feed into the radiator here, and another one there. And now we’ve drained down, I can probably cut this roughly back here and we can drill a new hole
for a new pipe to come up. But, I’m only gonna do that when I’ve hung the new radiator, and I know exactly where I want it to go. So, the next thing I’m gonna do is just rip this radiator off. Oh, my God! ♫ Oh, the wheels on the
bus go round and round ♫ Round and round, round and round. ♫ The wheels on the bus go round and round ♫ All day long. Now, we’ve disconnected each end, I’ve also put a bit of toilet rodding in each of the holes to stop any black water getting out. We should be able to just lift this off. Oh, lovely, and out of the way. Now, all we need to do is
remove our old radiator piece. So, we’re gonna put a new TRV
and set our valves on here. You have to spigots like this that will be what you put into the radiator. Always use Loctite on
these and on most threads. It’s better than PTFE. Now you put your thumb on
here and hold it like that, and get your first reel or two, just around the front, and then you go up and then you cross, cross wiggle it around a bit, cross, cross, keep wiggling it, and always just crossing and crossing. That’s what locks it in, it’s supposed to be a hemp
and paste premix, really, I suppose that’s the best
way of describing it. And then, just cut your
last little bit off with the little cutter. Do this to both spigots, and then you can wind both
of those into the radiator. And then we can look at
actually what position we’re going to be putting the radiator in. Gonna wind out the old plug here, and then we got this our
new spigot to go in here. Get ourselves an adjustable and just knit that. Right, so now we’re gonna look at the difficult part of this job. Basically, these
radiators hang on brackets that sit on the wall,
just like this, okay? They’re very, very simple brackets, a couple of holes in each. This particular company, have lovingly sent us
some brackets already. These are expanding plugs. Because these radiators are heavy, you need to make sure you
get decent anchorage here. Especially with one this size. What I’ll firstly do, is I’ll get my two bottom brackets and I’ll pop ’em here like that. Then I’ll know how far
apart there’re gonna be. And that is 21.5. So I get my pencil out, about to give this girl a shout, Bracket width equals 21.5. For the next bit, you don’t actually have
to have the brackets in. Cause we know the centres of the brackets are gonna be the same as the
centres for these pipes here. Grab your tape and put down
the centre of that pipe there, sometimes you need a little bit of help, someone to give you a hand. ♫ A helpin’ hand. Run it down to the
centre of this pipe here. That is 143.2. So now we’ve got height equals 143.2. Now much in the same way
to the towel rail video and this one, you need to decide actually where you want to hang your radiator. Now, because we already
know our width of bracket we can define the centre of
the radiator on the wall, divide that by two, and measure out from that, and then we know where the widths of our brackets are gonna be. When it comes to the
height of the radiator, I always start from the bottom. For example, I want my
radiator to be 20 centimetres off the floor. You know that your bracket
is gonna be roughly about a centimetre and
a half above the bottom of the radiator. So you measure up 21.5 centimetres. Because we’ve already got a pipe here that we’re gonna be going on, we’ve kind of defined as to where we’re gonna put the radiator on with that. So, what I now need to do, is I need to get my new radiator in line with that pipe down there. So I’m gonna mark up where
my radiator valve is. By that, I mean, just
pop in that in the side of the radiator, then I know how far the width of that has to be away from that first bracket. Let’s do that now. I know that my radiator
valve is gonna end there, so I also know that the
centre of my bracket is here. So, if I measure over from
the centre of the pipe to the centre of my bracket, I get a measurement of 11.2. Here’s the pipe I need to go on. I need my centre to be on there, so I pop that on there, I measure over 11.2, and Bob’s your uncle. So, what I do, I just get my spirit level
until my bubble is okay. A small line, just on there. So now we know where
our bracket’s gonna be. The height I’m gonna define, we’re gonna go at about 28. Grab my spirit level to a nice horizontal line on there. So now we know where our
first bracket’s gonna be. Now we measure up from here 143.2, all the way up, make our mark there, make sure that my spirit level’s in line so they’re not out like that. Then, what we need to do is measure across from here 21.5 centimetres. Make sure that they’re
both level, as well, and then check all your
levels when you’re finished. (jet aeroplane whistles) Right, what you do is
just make one little dot. Tiny ass dot, so no one will notice. If you go slightly
wrong, no one can see it. Then, pull out my spirit level, tiny dot, just a tiny dot, and maybe one below it. And I can see the dot we did a minute ago. That means you put a dash here. So now we know that is in
line with that one there. And we’ll make sure the mark we made earlier on is okay. Get that level. Now we know that’s where we
can put our second bracket. Now we measure across
from our line here 21.5. So simple. We do the same at the bottom, cause we’re crossin’ the
bottom at 21.5, as well. Right, so we got our spirit level that’s set to the right height here, and just over the mark we’ve just made, draw a mark there. Then the top the same. A little mark there. And then if you just want to make sure you’ve got your marks right, just check it all out
with the spirit level. There we go, we’ve got our four marks. Now I understand what we’ve just been over is long, arduous, and pretty boring, but it’s important that you
check your measurements. Make sure you’ve got a good spirit level. The one I’ve got is a Stabila. It’s the best. And, then, you’ve just got
to make sure that you’ve done everything correct and right. Now the way I’ve shown you
just now is slightly strange, because we were going
off that earlier pipe. But most of you guys are
gonna have a centre line, okay, and you won’t have your pipes there. So what you do then is you
measure your centre line, get a horizontal across the bottom, measure out to your two bottom brackets, then follow your centre line up and then measure out to
your two top brackets using that centre line. That’s how you usually do it. But because we’ve got this pipe here, it’s slightly more complicated. So now I’m going to show
you how you actually mark up each one of these brackets and then we’re gonna drill the wall and hopefully, this wall
isn’t gonna fall to bits, because, as I told you, it’s an absolute mess. So, we’ll go from here
and see how we get on. Bob! I pop that on the cross. On this round there, one right down there, and I’ll do that to the next one, just across here. And then, do that to the two bottom ones. Right, spot your holes, get your drill. This is such a horrible wall, it’s gonna go easy here. (motor revs) Just gonna pop my hand on here. Now I’ll know whether I’ve
gone deep enough for my plug. I need to go a tiny bit more. (motor revs) That’s as far as I dare go. So what I’m gonna use is
the adjustable hole here, just in case. I’m just gonna run this up tight. (motor revs) Ah, that’s great. That is great. Not going anywhere. Right, so. We’ve got ’em all in. They’re all level. I’ve check all my widths and everything. They all look fine. So it’s now time to hang our radiator up. Put those two to the bottom there. Slide in at the top. Pop, there we go. Well, that looks lovely. Check our levels. Oh, yeah! Oh, my God! Yep, that is an absolute beauty. So there we go. It’s all done now. It’s hanging on the wall beautifully. It’s exactly where he wanted it, and it’s nice and level. I’m gonna pipe it up now, and I’m gonna film that and you can watch that in
a second time lapse, Okay. But very quickly, there’s a cat out there eating and I want to film it eating close up. Cause I’m weird like that. Let’s do that now. Come on, eat your dinner. Right, so there we go. Piped up. I’m gonna fill it up now. There’s not gonna be any leaks cause I’m amazing. I hope you’ve enjoyed today’s
plumberparts.co.uk video. I’ve you’ve got anymore questions, or you see we’ve done something wrong, or something like that, let us know in the comments. You can also follow us
on Twitter and Facebook, as you know. So remember if you’ve got any questions, ask us and we will hopefully answer them in Ask a Plumber, for you. I hope you’ve enjoyed today’s
plumberparts.co.uk video. I hope you’re gonna come
back and watch some more. I hope you like column radiators and you think they’re amazing. And I hope that you have a lovely weekend, if it is the weekend
when we actually do this. So whatever weekend comes up after this, I hope you have a lovely one. Yeah? I hope it doesn’t rain. I fear the latter, people. Hold tight! Plumberparts.co.uk Honest reviews and advice.

81 Comments

  • Reply MOVING TARGET August 13, 2013 at 8:08 am

    YOUR MENTAL i love it lol nice vid hold tight

  • Reply Trailblazer NZ August 13, 2013 at 8:40 am

    Makita with a light…. Stabila it's da best……no leaks coz your amazing and you work really fast specially on the pipes. Job well done, loved it..hang loose!

  • Reply Darren Freeman August 13, 2013 at 10:15 am

    i've never installed a collum rad, thank you for showing us, same principles as a panel rad. Not the most effecient rad but they do seem more classy. Im sure you could double the efficiency by stuffing wire wool between the collumns, not sure if they'd look as great though. Cute cat!

  • Reply Marty7787 August 13, 2013 at 11:18 am

    No, It's not necessary.

  • Reply Marty7787 August 13, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    Both valves need turning off. If you're not confident then as the rad will be full of water, disconnect one side first and drain the radiator to make it easier.

  • Reply Handyjack August 13, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    What did you do with all that money?

    As always, great vid.

  • Reply addz91 August 13, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    Top video fella!

  • Reply Rob Lawrence August 13, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    All good! but what happened to filming AAV's? Got my own little AAV problem and need a tutorial. 🙂
    You've gotta be running out of plumbing scenarios soon fella!!

  • Reply woodbine66 August 17, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    More quality videos.
    You're the man!! Barking mad, but still THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Reply Philip Mc geown August 18, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    U get some handy jobs i tell ya lol

  • Reply Stupid Brick August 19, 2013 at 9:12 am

    I want to hurt the guy who invented towel rads !

  • Reply Jordan Gregory August 29, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    started watching your videos today because I'm starting a plumbing course Monday, you're brilliant! Keep up the videos haha! "go on, eat ya dinner" love it!

  • Reply Chuck Norris September 10, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    Dude, why no chrome pipeage! Looks way cooler with chromeage! However, I would like to 'big-up' yourself.

  • Reply Dylan Bond November 2, 2013 at 1:16 am

    You think plumbings easy trust me its not as easy as it looks

  • Reply Marc Gray July 16, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    Hi mate could you possibly do a video in more detail of how u measured up for the offset bends you did in this video as I'm trying to get to grips with working out measurements when bending pipe! Cheers mate

  • Reply Kirsty August 2, 2014 at 11:59 am

    Hi there. Love your videos but the bits you timelapsed and cut from your towel rail vid were the bits I really wanted to see :-(. I have an old Victorian house, but in the bathroom the pipework runs at right angles to the joists. I need to replace a huge old radiator with a smaller radiator / towel rail combi without notching out the joists. Radiator is also earthed – I've not seen this in your videos. Any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated. Maybe flexihoses and box in above floor pipework? Cheers! Kirsty x

  • Reply SoundSoCollective August 17, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    Plumb Bob … i still use lol

  • Reply SoundSoCollective August 17, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    Them Anchor bolts are crap…. 2.5" screw 5.5mm/7mm drill bit…. Red/Brown Rawplug….
    Drill hole, insert plus and tap in with a hammer… insert screw to plug tap again untill firm…. Srew and fix (Solid)

  • Reply Nathaniel Thomas November 5, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    Nat Thomas
    just watched your how to hang a column rad. MINT! just as all of your vids I've watched are. Because I am a rookie plumber I like to watch the piping bit in real time. the soldering, bending and measuring. could you include this in future vids please? a suggestion could be notching. Hold tight! 

  • Reply amir hussain November 24, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    Hi pp I would like to see you doing the offsets you did and the bending pipes cheers pp

  • Reply julia061174 December 5, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    how you are not on telly yet? :)))

  • Reply Trek World Racing February 28, 2015 at 10:07 pm

    You are amazing.

    Your the amazing mongel

  • Reply Ratilal Hirani June 10, 2015 at 9:16 am

    hi

    I have a mega flow system but want to add a radiator in my home .. what is the procedure to do this. I had a gravity system before which i knew how to refill, but i am unsure with this mega flow system.

    please help
    many thanks!

  • Reply Peter Duffy August 10, 2015 at 6:35 am

    DIYPETE
    Watched the video a couple of times before fitting a column radiator did as you showed  everything went fantastic also used the same screw fittings as shown in the video had no problems with them. Thank you

  • Reply Steve Cullen October 5, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    slightly dissapointed I didn't get to see the moggy finish its dinner but other then that pretty informative.

  • Reply Steve Cullen October 5, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    slightly dissapointed I didn't get to see the moggy finish its dinner but other then that pretty informative.

  • Reply Jamie Scott October 14, 2015 at 4:13 pm

    "Theres not gonna be any leaks cause im amazing" – I think I love you bro (not gay)

    Love your videos pal. Started looking at plumber videos cause I smashed my radiator pipe with the vacuum cleaner and it leaked bad. cry

    Hold tight 😀 Also, you're pretty handsome (still not gay)

    Cheers!

  • Reply brian benson November 24, 2015 at 1:59 pm

    Hi can you hang these radiators with the pipes coming down from the ceiling or do they have to come up from the floor??

  • Reply Colin M November 25, 2015 at 11:20 pm

    how about hanging these on plasterboard walls any tips thank keep up the great plumbing jobs

  • Reply Colin M November 28, 2015 at 8:09 pm

    hi there would you personal put copper on plastic under floor for central heating 22m your opion pleas

  • Reply Colin M November 30, 2015 at 12:22 pm

    just a question I am going to pressure test pipes under floor and would like to know to what pressure you test its a loft conversion and pipes will be under floor under wall so making sure no leaks many thanks for help so far colin

  • Reply abdullah nawaz December 12, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    +plumberparts can you make basic vids like basics to more complex pls start from

  • Reply Inodoro Pereyra January 6, 2016 at 11:28 pm

    Good job mate! How about the water pressure? Before & after to cut the pipe.

  • Reply Ryan Carr March 14, 2016 at 7:43 pm

    Guess you have a gopro ?

  • Reply Muchomorek March 30, 2016 at 10:12 pm

    These rad copper connections made with bender look awesome !

  • Reply steowong April 2, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    your pipework is a joy to watch. Pipe Art 🙂

  • Reply Michael Howe May 9, 2016 at 2:16 pm

    How much loctite do you use on radiator spigots ?

  • Reply Tom Green May 24, 2016 at 10:16 am

    Great vid as ever. What are those wall fixings you used for the crappy wall? FANKS!

  • Reply Szymon Gaming September 11, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    Hi. Do you have video how to close water – (cold and hot) wich is coming in to radiators?

  • Reply Witold October 19, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    You are funny mate 😉

  • Reply Karl Harris October 28, 2016 at 10:58 pm

    Would have been good to get a close up on how you got the bends on the pipe once you got them below the floor.
    Love your vids bro and love the look of column radiators as well, but not great on BTU's for their size.

  • Reply john spicer November 15, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    why do you guys put nice chrome fixing at both ends of the radiator yet you have the horrid copper pipe going up to it, surely the last bit of pipe that is going up to the chrome fixing should be in chromed copper pipe as its look really nice and is the only bit of pipe display to the eye.

  • Reply Chris McKeown November 30, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    Had to pause and comment at the Don't Mug Yourself reference. Carry on.

  • Reply BATMAN DESTROYS December 4, 2016 at 11:31 am

    You are a genius! Absolutely magnificent video. Well explained!

  • Reply Jonathan Greenwood January 7, 2017 at 10:21 pm

    i love watching your vids. Pro @work.

  • Reply slawrence62 January 14, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    Love the vids great stuff, but why did you measure the right pipe then cut it and replace ??

  • Reply Th3M4nd3M January 30, 2017 at 12:09 am

    Can you send me the link where I can purchase the same or similar wall brackets please! Thanks!

  • Reply Lee Gilray January 31, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    alright mate, I have a problem, I am installing all my radiators myself but I am having the pipes come out the wall. the problem is I am using chrome piping but I am struggling to tighten the pipes without the pipe kinking ever so slightly just after the nut and they keep leaking when I pressure test as well. is there a special sequence/trick to tightening the pipes without twisting the pipe?

  • Reply Topias Kauppinen February 4, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    Thank you for explaining how to do. Also Do you usually measure in cm or inch in UK?

  • Reply Kingsway Driving - Richard King ADI March 1, 2017 at 11:55 pm

    My problem is that my floors are sheet MDF rather than floor-boards. Also the radiator feeds are flexible plastic pipe, coming out from the plaster-board wall…

  • Reply Whittupiggu March 19, 2017 at 1:44 am

    those walls are fiiiine

  • Reply Tecnologia June 30, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    LOL it's the weekend!!!!!!!! Have a nice one too 🙂

  • Reply phillip bull July 12, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    dot and dab wall…lovely

  • Reply Ryan McEwan July 29, 2017 at 10:57 am

    Any advice for installing column radiators on plasterboard or ply walls???

  • Reply RomeoKGT October 18, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Fortunate you can lift the floorboards. I have an old type 11 radiator thats 2m in length and I want to change to type 22 and reduce the size to 1600mm and still have more Btu. Problem is the pipes are in the wall and its the 8mm copper type from the 80's

  • Reply T M October 23, 2017 at 10:22 am

    Picked up loads of tips from your videos, cheers! Struggled with ptfe tape time and time again, that loctite 55 is the nuts and I now get a good seal first time every time! Nice one!

  • Reply جمال الدين القسنطيني November 25, 2017 at 12:50 pm

    Great professional and good sense of humor

  • Reply nman2563 December 26, 2017 at 8:55 pm

    Great video! You don't like installing them because they are not as efficient as panel radiators?

  • Reply Shaun Beard February 7, 2018 at 9:08 pm

    Hi I hope you can help. I understand about feed pipe being 22mm then branching to 15 but what size for return. Thanks

  • Reply Truth Seeker February 9, 2018 at 11:03 pm

    Great if you can lift the floorboards, what if you have another wood flooring on the top of the boards so you can't lift? Is there any other way to shift the pipes? I think I know the answer… :/

  • Reply Jamie Watchorn February 11, 2018 at 1:07 am

    You’re awesome. Wish all tradesmen were as fun as you

  • Reply Glittlejohns1 March 25, 2018 at 10:56 am

    Hi buddy, i want to tap off from a hallway radiator into a bathroom radiator-sort of a leg- just flowing around the bathroom rad back into the F and R for the hallway rad. Is this as simple as it sounds and do i need to plumb it in any particular way (given that TRVs are bi-directional)? thanks..

  • Reply Zaki Adam March 29, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    Hi mate. What is the safety way to fit Worcester gas boiler on the plasterboard. Thanks.

  • Reply gc19901 April 8, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    telling a cat what to do. that'll never work. oh yeah and hold tight

  • Reply Jonathon Stanley June 11, 2018 at 7:07 am

    I'm not a fan of hanging these radiators I don't no why they don't come with a template to make our lives easier

  • Reply Mark Valentine July 4, 2018 at 10:30 am

    Bloody hell you are good! how did you know my uncle Bob?

  • Reply wgenerotzky July 22, 2018 at 6:32 am

    Do you ever work with cast iron radiators? The radiators I install here are mostly cast iron floor standing units.

  • Reply smithboyv1 August 9, 2018 at 6:46 pm

    All the vertical radiators I've purchased recently have metal filings still inside them that you can hear when tilting the radiator, which I can't seem to flush out.
    Any one else have this issue?

  • Reply Falco 666 September 2, 2018 at 3:55 pm

    Self levelling laser level required!

  • Reply Robert Baines September 26, 2018 at 3:13 pm

    I'm hanging my first column rad in the next couple of weeks. I've taken the old rads off, no issue. I was hoping to just connect them to the existing pipework though, after fitting new TRV's and some telescopic radiator tails? I'm no plumber so was hoping to avoid altering pipework. I notice you ended up having to alter the pipe to the right hand side of this rad though?

  • Reply Daniel Brannigan December 9, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    Can it be risky having the valve / compression fitting, close to a pulled bend or offset?

  • Reply Big Head face January 30, 2019 at 6:40 pm

    Help me pass my on site assessment!

  • Reply worlds okayest golfer February 17, 2019 at 11:36 pm

    I've just put one of these in but I have muddled up the flow and return, so the pipe that gets hot first is going into the return side. When on the rad makes a trickling noise and dosent work properly, will this be sorted if I flip the pipes. Cheers.

  • Reply John Paul Elliott March 12, 2019 at 7:34 pm

    You did everything perfect except the bottom brackets face down to stop radiator from coming off the wall they're very tricky to fit ..You do the top brackets first hang rad on them loosely fit the bottom two brackets and you go in from side with a spanner and tighten bolts ..with both brackets facing up the radiator potentially could be knocked of the wall with upward force

  • Reply roy ratcliff April 25, 2019 at 4:13 pm

    6ft level would be handy for vertical marking up

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  • Reply Alan Cooney October 13, 2019 at 5:50 pm

    Great video! I put one of these on a dot'n'dab hollow wall – had to recess wooden blocks to bridge gap between plasterboard surface and bricks behind. Used long "bolt head" screws through the wooden blocks into the brick. Job done!!…these radiators are just really really heavy. Bo' Selecta!

  • Reply Jason S October 21, 2019 at 5:58 pm

    We’ve fitted a column radiator and only half of the rad is heating up…. any thoughts

  • Reply Charlie Farlie October 24, 2019 at 9:55 pm

    I think that your vids are amazing although I can’t understand a word , ( perhaps you could do subtitles ? )
    Lots of love and best regards from north of Watford gap ? .

  • Reply Peter sutton November 22, 2019 at 10:53 am

    Hi is there a right way up or can you fit any way

  • Reply undaya November 23, 2019 at 11:16 am

    just luverly

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